Skip to content
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Instagram
  • PodBean
  • Subscribe To My Pal Sammy Newsletter
  • ABOUT
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms

My Summer Lair

Think NPR's Fresh Air meets Kevin Smith: My Summer Lair with host Sammy Younan: interviews & impressions on Pop Culture.

  • Home
  • Podcast
    • My Summer Lair
    • Space Station Oddity
  • Set The VCR
  • New Book Alert
  • True Sammy Stories
  • Toggle search form

Artst Tlk Episode 2: Pharrell Williams Interviews David Salle & KAWS

Posted on May 13, 2016 By Sammy Younan No Comments on Artst Tlk Episode 2: Pharrell Williams Interviews David Salle & KAWS

The branding stands out: For the second episode of Artst Tlk it’s “A new take on the talk show format hosted by award winning producer, artist, designer, and businessman Pharrell Williams.” Businessman is the word that stands out…since 2012 all those other aspects of Pharrell are not only confirmed but match his public identity. Businessman…huh.

Anyhoo:
Episode 2…you can check out Episode 1 but this no complex Doctor Who mythology that demands chronological order. And since this episode is about Art the animations are created by Kevin Lyons, dig his work.


Confession: I’m not familiar with KAWS‘ work or David Salle. What I’ve seen over the course of this episode is engaging…their personalities over the course of this episode is not and that’s kinda enough to walk away; to not sign up.

It’s one of the risks of doing these shows…Pharrell is saying “Yo…check this out these guys do fresh work!” so you hope the guys doing fresh work are fresh too. I discovered new art, thanks Pharrell but I also got bored too.

1:10 KAWS: “figure out a new scene…” The eternal struggle…do you stay where you are, build strong roots or do you pack it up, pack it in, let me begin in a greener land? Do you have to go to New York City/LA or can you succeed right where you are?

4:06 KAWS’ parallels: “a working parallel and what I like to do parallel” this fascinating dichotomy…he’s not talking about the dreaded Day Job…It’s pimping his Work to make $$$ to sell his Art…Q: How many excellent works have the Dreaded Day Job cost us? Cost Artists?

Note: Almost 10 minutes in and there’s no passion! Why is everybody so stiff? Where’s the enthusiasm…the child like playfulness? I can’t tell if Pharrell is friends with these Artists or just met em…this is not how real Artists talk when they hang out.

10:20 Pharrell: “We should give more light to the bartering aspect…” I can’t stand the people who complain about working for free; you can’t negotiate your value because you don’t have a value: there are no genuine economics to support the number you’ve come up with. Your art; your creativity automatically transcends traditional economics (even though you still gotta pay the rent, eat 3 meals a day etc.).

12:38 David Salle recognizes nostalgia is a trap i.e. Star Wars: Force Awakens. That’s engineered nostalgia just like McDonalds designed to taste good to a mass audience. There’s no challenge in nostalgia.

12:50 The Productivity Challenge: the Industrial Revolution does not apply to Artists. (Although Bowie had that remarkable 5 year output that’s more of an generous anomaly…much like Bowie himself).

13:45 “Where there’s money there’s attention.” Pharrell

16:55 “Critics…do they even matter?” If you gotta ask…then nope. Value is immediate and obvious. Goes back to working for free, too. Your work is not defined by critics: praise or hate or meh. In the Twitter era having critics is rather silly…it’s another example of how we cling to the past: this what we’ve always done so let’s keep doing that.

18:25 “You made it!” I don’t understand much less accept this idea. You get on the subway to get off at a specific station…that’s what it means to make it. That analogy can’t apply to an Artist you keep growing, failing, succeeding…there is no final stop, no final destination (excellent movie by the way!)

19:50 Martin Scorsese Presents…David Salle directed Search and Destroy a 1995 movie…peep the Trailer. Never saw it; after that trailer I’m glad I missed it.

22:47 Q: What’s the most common phrase in the world right now?

Done deal! Episode 3 here I come.

Sammy Younan Is Snooty & Snobby: W T F
Sammy Younan Funky Bio

Ziggy Was Here January 8, 1947 – January 10, 2016

Girth Radio Blog Tags:Artst Tlk, David Salle, Illuminated Chronicles, KAWS, Kevin Lyons, Pharrell Williams

Post navigation

Previous Post: Host Haiku In Session With Girth…Leslie Hudson
Next Post: Host Haiku In Session With Girth…Avalanche City

More Related Articles

Last Night’s NXNE: June 19, 2015 Girth Radio Blog
Pantsworthy: Hot Docs – May 5, 2016 Girth Radio Blog
Host Haiku In Session With Girth…The Kents Girth Radio Blog
TBT: G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero Girth Radio Blog
Trailer Alert: All Governments Lie: Truth, Deception, and the Spirit of I.F. Stone Girth Radio Blog
Illuminated Chronicles: Tribeca Talks: Directors Series – J.J. Abrams with Chris Rock Girth Radio Blog

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

  • #SetTheVCR: June 23-29, 2025
    by Sammy Younan
    Here's a Countdown of TV Recommendations. For those who're Young Werther or those with an Ironheart this is #SetTheVCR.
  • #SetTheVCR: June 16-22, 2025
    by Sammy Younan
    TV Recommendations for a Magic Lover you can watch week down by The Waterfront just watch out for Sharks. I'm not a Liar...look it's #SetTheVCR.
  • #SetTheVCR: June 09-15, 2025
    by Sammy Younan
    Without a TV Guide TV Recommendations can quickly go FUBAR quickly like checking into a Hell Motel. To avoid that Trainwreck #SetTheVCR is your TV Revival.
  • #SetTheVCR June 2–8, 2025 TV recommendations image from My Summer Lair, featuring a retro-style television graphic promoting a weekly pop culture column by podcast host Sammy Younan.
    #SetTheVCR: June 02-08, 2025
    by Sammy Younan
    Your Presence is required for these TV Recommendations which range from Power Moves to a Resident Alien. #SetTheVCR for Good Night, and Good Luck.
  • #SetTheVCR TV recommendations cover for May 26 – June 1, 2025, from My Summer Lair podcast, highlighting curated weekly streaming and television picks by Sammy Younan.
    #SetTheVCR: May 26 – June 01, 2025
    by Sammy Younan
    Here stories from Birbiglia to Bono: it’s a Brave New World filled with TV Recommendations. Wanna Live The Good Life? Enjoy this week’s #SetTheVCR.
  • #SetTheVCR cover for May 19–25, 2025 from My Summer Lair podcast, featuring weekly streaming and TV recommendations curated by host Sammy Younan.
    #SetTheVCR: May 19-25, 2025
    by Sammy Younan
    From Pee-wee Herman to Sherlock Holmes this week’s TV Recommendations are loaded with comedy, angst and drama. Plus for this week’s #SetTheVCR you get to shake it like a Polaroid picture.
  • #SetTheVCR TV guide cover for May 12–18, 2025 from My Summer Lair podcast, with curated streaming and broadcast recommendations by Sammy Younan.
    #SetTheVCR: May 12-18, 2025
    by Sammy Younan
    Do you have Heart Eyes for fresh TV Recommendations without all the Overcompensating puns? The puns are here to stay that’s what makes it #SetTheVCR.
  • #SetTheVCR: May 05-11, 2025
    by Sammy Younan
    Even with your Poker Face I can tell you’re seeking TV Recommendations for your Safe House. No worries with this week’s #SetTheVCR I got it in The Black Bag.
  • #SetTheVCR: April 28 – May 04, 2025
    by Sammy Younan
    April showers bring May TV listings: these TV recommendations cover all Four Seasons. It’s #SetTheVCR where I put the On in Conan.
  • #SetTheVCR: April 21-27, 2025
    by Sammy Younan
    TV Recommendations can be Havoc; You need help. Well Babygirl: I got you; it's your TV Companion: #SetTheVCR.
  • #CouchWorthy: Barbara Walters: Tell Me EverythingJune 22, 2025
    Exploring the pioneering career of Barbara Walters. Delving into her influential role in broadcast journalism and the challenges women face in achieving success.
  • #CouchWorthy: Bono: Stories of SurrenderMay 29, 2025
    Bono: Stories of Surrender is a vivid reimagining of his one-man stage show Stories of Surrender now streaming on Apple TV.
  • #CouchWorthy: Super Team CanadaMay 16, 2025
    Super Team Canada follows six lesser known and underrated Canadian superheroes, tasked with saving the world.
  • #CouchWorthy: Murderbot: Season 1 May 15, 2025
    Murderbot a private security cyborg hides its acquired autonomy, while completing dangerous assignments is simultaneously drawn to humans.
  • #CouchWorthy: Ernest Cole: Lost and Found April 29, 2025
    Raoul Peck's portrait of South African photographer Ernest Cole offers a harrowing history of Apartheid and chronicles an artist in exile.
  • #CouchWorthy: 2025 Key Midseason & Premiere Dates – April 2025March 28, 2025
    #SetTheVCR is your weekly TV Guide by Sammy Younan to help you plan a fantastic TV schedule from must-watch TV shows to fun discoveries.

  • Batman: Detective Comics Vol. 1: Gotham Nocturne: Overture
    Under-Review: Detective Comics: Gotham Nocturne: Overture
    by Sammy Younan
    My Summer Lair host Sammy Younan reviews Batman - Detective Comics: Gotham Nocturne: OvertureL Volume 1,
  • New Book Alert: California Bear
    by Sammy Younan
    New Book Alert is just that: A useful Yo for a fresh book. from your pal Sammy. What Are You Reading?
  • New Book Alert: The Music Was Just Getting Good
    by Sammy Younan
    New Book Alert is just that: A useful Yo for a fresh book. from your pal Sammy. What Are You Reading?
  • New Book Alert: The Ascent
    by Sammy Younan
    New Book Alert is just that: A useful Yo for a fresh book. from your pal Sammy. What Are You Reading?
  • New Book Alert: Fantastic Four by Ryan North Volume 2
    by Sammy Younan
    New Book Alert is just that: A useful Yo for a fresh book. from your pal Sammy. What Are You Reading?

Copyright © 2025 My Summer Lair.

Powered by PressBook Premium theme